What's Scarier?

by kalbzayn on July 2, 2007

What is scarier?

The health insurance companies deciding what kind of conditions are coverable or not or the government making those decisions?

I’m thinking that the health insurance companies and the drug companies paying the politicians a lot of money to the politicians and then letting all three groups come up with the rules is the scariest option of all.

Yeah, I just watched a copy of Sicko that somebody posted on Google (it only had the first hour). I would link but it will probably get pulled before you have a chance to watch it. Go hit Google or YouTube.


I love the part where they show how much each politician was paid by the drug companies. I also loved the part where Moore visits Canada and England.

The US is such a crazy country. We need a good rebellion.

Any of you people from any non-US country want to chime in about the quality of health care in your countries? Believe it or not, I don’t actually trust Michael Moore to be completely unbiased either.

Hey, isn’t an election year coming up?


strugglingwriter July 2, 2007 at 1:39 pm

The sad thing is you could probably substitute “insurance companies” with “oil companies” or “telecom companies”.

The main reason the US is so dependent on oil has little to do with the technology, it is there. Instead it has to do with the oil companies giving so much money to our elected officials who subsidize the industry.

Bonnie July 3, 2007 at 8:53 pm

Hey Mike, here I am to put in a Canadian comment. Our health care system is pretty good, but with anything, it could be better. While I can see the doctor and go to the hospital without worry (as if I wasn’t worried enough going to the hospital!), Canadians without additional health plans have to pay for dental care, prescriptions and eyeglasses. And don’t go there with the cost-effective Canadian pharmacy angle–even cheap dtugs add up! I think I’ll move to France…

Nienke July 10, 2007 at 7:56 am

I heard MM says the average wait for a Canadian hospital emergency room is around 45 min to 1 1/2 hours. Not in my experience. Unless you’re dying, you’re looking at as much as 8 to 10 hours or longer (and I felt like I was dying)!
In addition, although we have provincial medicare coverage, our waiting times for certain healthcare tests and treatments (such as an MRI or cancer treatment) can take months!
Our insurance companies decide what is covered, and you bet they make decisions on how they’ll make money and the gov’t makes the decisions on medicare. Canadians are frustrated with healthcare issues too.

kalbzayn July 10, 2007 at 11:57 am

I kind of figured that the glory of the Canadian system might have been a bit exaggerated when some of the people he interviewed were his own Canadian relatives.

One thing is for sure, it will be interested to see the discussion all of this creates during the election posturing over the next year.

Leopold July 10, 2007 at 10:42 pm

I second Bonnie’s comment. Moore has a tendancy to only look at the good side of Canada. So while he was right about our health care system being better, us feeling less afraid, having less gun crime, etc… he over exagerates, which is too bad, because it detracts from the fact that there are better ways.

I saw sicko in theaters and I went in thinking ‘oh no, I hope he doesn’t exagerate Canada again and make me feel embarassed.’ Actually, when I came out of the movie I felt that our health system SUCKED BIG TIME! I mean, it’s way better than the US (and I don’t think Moore exagerated too much this time around – except on the wait times business.), but that’s a pretty low standard to compare yourself to. I mean, the US system is notoriously bad. But we don’t have a national pharmacare program like Britain, or a day care program (and I think this fits in with health) like France. Pretty much the Canadian system hasn’t done much with it’s health care since it established it and has been eroding it ever since, while countries like europe represent what you can really achieve with these systems.

kalbzayn July 11, 2007 at 5:46 am

Thanks for the feedback, Leopold.

Totally unrelated, but I think it is funny that I know of 4 non-family members that stop by here with any regularity and 3 of them are Canadian. If I ever start a rock band I am definitely heading north for the tour.

S William Shaw July 19, 2007 at 3:31 pm

Both scare the living crap out of me.

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